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The best six doctors anywhere And no one can deny it Are sunshine, water, rest, and air Exercise and diet. These six will gladly you attend If only you are willing Your mind they'll ease Your will they'll mend And charge you not a shilling.


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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:59 pm

    Day 9 - June 30th
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    Whey in my Just Right
    Coffee w/ Coconut Milk (need to stop that)
    Beefaroni + carrots
    Herring, apple, carrots
    Whey before going home
    Garden pesto (no seconds)
    4 handfuls butterless sea-salt popcorn (NOM)


    Day 10 - July 1st
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    Whey in my Just Right
    Coffee w/ honey + milk (it's a holiday!)
    1/2 a blueberry bar (Farmers Market)
    1 small bowl homemade Stroganoff
    2 slices roast, 2 potatoes, salad
    1 piece homemade strawberry shortcake (w/ strawberries!)
    Amazingly, no dessert.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:35 pm

    Day 11 - July 2nd
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    Whey in my Just Right (starting to get dull)
    Beefaroni
    Herring, Apple + Carrots (my standard 'lunch' now)
    Whey and water in the afternoon
    1 plate garden spaghetti
    5 meatballs
    no dessert
    Couple handfulls butterless popcorn.
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    Post  Kyrose Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:56 pm

    Ever think about a hot breakfast? Oatmeal? Eggs and bacon?

    Eggs only take a minute or two, and they are awesome for you. if your worried about calories, ditch the yoke, its more or less just fat anyway.

    When i'm lazy and cj's not around (she hates when i make this for some reason), i make myself what i call man-chow. 3 eggs (4 if you get rid of yoke) 6-8 crackers, a cup of salsa, and a bit of grated cheese. mix, fry, eat. very quick, very simple, and covers every base you need covered.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:56 pm

    Yeah, you've mentioned that. I should do eggs more often, we've got a ton of them, and they're from the farm (super delish!)
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Sun Jul 05, 2009 6:28 pm

    Day 12 - July 3rd
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    Just Right w/ Whey
    Beefaroni + water
    herring, apple, carrots
    milk
    whey + last of milk
    2 med bowls of home-made Maraconi
    Half a bag of butterless popcorn
    --> I still ate too much, but I was so hungry, and homemade macaroni is REALLY tempting. This was my worst day since starting. Victory points for not having any ice cream, limiting my chocolate two 2 tiny squares.

    Day 13 - July 4th
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    Last of Just Right w/ Whey
    Last of macaroni + 2 eggs (tiny bowl, really)
    Peanut butter granola bar + apple juice
    1/2 grilled cheese, 1/2 soup
    1/2 steak, handful of carrots
    2 smirnoffs
    --> Not a great day, but not bad! No apples or carrots at home, so I really tried to hold back. Also, no ice crea, pudding, hot chocolate OR coke out at the farm.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:54 pm

    Day 14 - July 5th
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    Small lucky charms
    2 large coffees
    beefaroni
    skim milk + chicken
    1 big plate spaghetti (no seconds)
    2 Smirnoffs
    No dessert (unless you count Smirnoffs)

    Not my best weekend for food, but realistically it's MUCH better than normal.
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    Post  Kyrose Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:17 pm

    Doing good man, keep at it.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:15 pm

    Can I get your advice re: taking my intake to the next level?

    I know the "eating every three hours" is the golden rule, but what if that got stretched to 3.5 or 4 hours? Will it offset the 3 hour rule? I have breakfast around 7:30, so at 10:30 I have my next one, but due to just being busy, I often don't actually eat it until 11:30, and then I wait until 2:30 (another three hours) to eat again, but then I get busy and eat after three.

    So I am thinking of just doing 7:30, 11:00-ish, 3:00-ish, dinner, and a little sumthin' sumthin' before bed (one or two free-range eggs, etc).

    Secondly, I am now out of beefaroni and stew, so I am phasing them out. Breakfast will be whey+cereal, or a couple eggs, or something tasty. Second meal will now be the herring+carrots+apple, third meal will be whey+carrots+apple (don't worry, it still takes me 5 days to eat a 2lb bag of carrots, no poison for me!), fourth meal will be dinner (without seconds) and fifth meal will be small evening snack.

    Is this too little food? It drops my carbs way down, but that is a good thing for me, since I still get plenty of carbs with breakfast, dinner, and whey, more than enough to survive. In terms of food mass, this is a significant drop from my current intake (which is a huge drop from my PREVIOUS intake), but I think I can handle it, since I've been doing it for a few days and as long as I avoid the apple juice at home, I stick with it.

    Too much? Not enough? You're the expert.
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    Post  Kyrose Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:36 pm

    Cutting too much can be dangerous. Here are a few principals that i've been following the last little while, dont know if they will work for you, but i seem to be getting by fine on them.

    I've limited my "carb" foods down to 2 wheetbix in the morning, 50g (uncooked weight) of pasta for lunch, and a small potato for dinner. My theory is if your eating 10-12 servings per day of veggies, then you'll get more than enough carbs from them, so no need to worry about getting enough. We arnt ment to live off them, like most north americans tend to, but we also wernt ment to live without them, like most atkins idiots tend to.

    Regarding weither or not its too little food, theres really only one way to find out. You need to get as accurate a measure of your body fat % as you can. From there, subtract the lbs of fat from your current bodyweight, resulting in your lean body mass. My rule of thumb from here is never eat less than 10x your lean body mass in lbs worth of calories. for me, its roughly 155lbs, so i never eat less than 1550cal. As i'm trying to drop some weight, i never allow myself more than 2000cal per day. This could be more for you, as you've got more body to support, but i'd say if you eat more than 2300-2500 per day, your over eating (just a rough guess).
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:38 pm

    Well, my intake would then be:

    500 cals in the morning (whey, cereal, coffee)
    ~300 cals (herring, carrots, apple, coffee)
    ~400 cals (whey, apple, carrots)
    ~600 cals (dinner)
    ~300 cals (snack)

    This is 2100 calories, down from the 2500 I was shooting for. I'm not eliminating a meal, just replacing the beefaroni with more fruits and veggies.
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    Post  Kyrose Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:44 pm

    Which is probaly a wise plan.

    All i do these days is avoid eating more "carb" based foods than i need to, because as i said i get enough from fruits and veggies, make sure i hit 100g protein per day, and never eat more than 2000cal.

    2100 could be too little for you. I have no idea what your lean bodyweight is, and thats what i allways like to base how many calories you need off of. its stupid to give yourself less than you need, and its also stupid to feed fat cells when you dont need to. figure out your bodyfat % and you can calculate your intake needs.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:46 pm

    How can I accurately figure out my bodyweight -fat? Even taking into account my height, I can't see myself weighing more than 240lbs at the OUTSIDE, probably more like 220 lean weight.
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    Post  Kyrose Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:53 pm

    http://www.healthstatus.com/calculate/bfb

    Not perfectly accurate by any means, but close enough for what we need.

    I suggest you search the net for more calculatio based systems, then average all your findings out.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:57 pm

    Body Fat Estimation:

    Results:
    Using your measurements of a 44 inches waist and weight of 320 pounds your body fat percentage is estimated to be 41.53 % using the U.S. Navy body fat formula, or 31.08 % using the formula developed by the YMCA.

    Motherfucker.

    ...

    Well, that gives me a range of 188lbs - 221lbs.

    The one thing that throws me is.... my waist IS my hips. I would be entering the same number for both of those.
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    Post  Kyrose Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:00 pm

    Just measure as it asks you too. For most males, what you said will be true. for females, typical the narrowest part of thier waist is above thier navel, and under thier ribcage.

    Based off those numbers, your minimum is roughly between 1900 and 2200, so 2100 as a min is probaly ok.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:29 pm

    Realistically, I'm probably a LITTLE higher than 2100, so it should be good.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Tue Jul 07, 2009 3:42 am

    Ok, I got accurate numbers, and the results just changed to 42.6% and 32.4%, so... really, not much change at all.

    Other websites, other numbers:

    41.9%
    42.6% (again)
    33.6%

    Average: 38.6%

    Resulting LBW: 196.5 lbs.
    Resulting MinCal: ~2000 calories.

    So my 2100 calorie intake seems to err on the side of caution. Upping my exercise level, awayyyyy!
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:58 pm

    Day 15 - June 6th
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    Whey in my Just Right
    2 coffees
    Herring, apple, carrots
    Whey, apple, carrots
    1 bowl of sirloin stew (all homegrown!)
    two nine-grain low-fat half-sugar cocoa cookies (NOM)
    3 tiny squares spicy chocolate

    That's actually pretty good for me, and the cookies are awesome (and high in protein!)
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:22 pm

    Day 16 - July 7th
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    2 eggs, 1 coffee
    1 donut
    1 small ham sammich, apple, carrots
    oat cookie
    whey
    1 small burger, 1 scoop rice, some carrots
    oat cookie
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:25 pm

    Day 17 - July 8th
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    Slept in
    Stew, whey
    Whey, apple, carrots
    Stew, crackers
    1 big plate pesto
    3 small slices garlic bread
    1 oat cookie
    Smirnoff

    OD'd on dinner a bit, but didn't eat nearly as much during the day, so it evens out?
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:33 pm

    Day 18 - July 9th
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    stew, whey, coffee
    chicken burger, milk, caesar salad (fast food)
    whey, apple
    sushi (7 pieces)
    big smoothie (yogurt + fruit)
    no cookies!
    apple juice
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    Post  Kyrose Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:36 pm

    Its amazing how the fast food places are starting to offer "healthy" options that are actually almost healthy these days.

    My favorite is still the jalapeno baconator from wendies however... mmmmm.... one days calories in half a meal.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:38 pm

    I wasn't near food, and I weasn't going to be near food for another hour, and with the salad it was only 80 cents more than just the sandwich and a milk, so I figured why not. The dressing was still like 110 calories, but all told the meal was only about 550, and still a decent amount of protein, so I figure it evened out with the sushi and the smoothie.
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    Post  Kyrose Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:43 pm

    Yup. The healthy options are great and if you can order them your doing well. I just lack the willpower for them. I get to the order window and next thing i know i'm 5lbs heavier.

    Damn you fast food.
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    Post  Shipwrecked Dictator Mon Jul 13, 2009 4:44 pm

    Long weekend. Bad weekend. Bad, long weekend.

    Day 19 - Friday July 10th
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    stew, whey, coffee
    kalamari lunch
    roast chicken, apple
    2 slices pizza
    resist snacking the rest of the night
    Gutted moldy kitchen until 2am

    Day 20 - Saturday July 11th
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    whey Rice Krispies, coffee
    piece of pizza, coffee
    tuna-lettuce wrap (healthy!)
    Fox burger
    1/2 nachos
    3 smirnoffs
    ---> Not a healthy night. Pleh.

    Day 21 - Sunday July 12th
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    Whey Krispies, coffee
    Few handfuls popcorn twists (mmmm, fat!)
    hamburger, hot dog, cake, ice cream
    pork and potato salad sandwich
    more cake
    coffee, double cream double sugar
    ---> Also not a healthy night, pretty much a pure stress day.

    My worst two days since starting all of this. Blerg.

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